On this episode of ID the Future, Casey Luskin interviews Luman Wing, a signer of the Dissent from Darwinism list who has spent many years working in biotechnology. Dr. Wing recounts his observations as an undergraduate studying under Dr. Dean Kenyon at San Francisco State University at the time that Dr. Kenyon underwent his intellectual de-conversion from Darwinism, and rescinded his textbook promoting the natural chemical origin of life.